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Save the Earth Mods ([personal profile] theearth) wrote in [community profile] saveyourselves2015-03-22 11:01 pm
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Plot post for March 22nd

THE FINAL PLOTTING POST
Endgame is upon us!


This format of plot post is designed for players to ask questions and find ways to influence the plot. Be bold and ask what you can or can't do; the worst that can happen is that we will say no. Plots in Save the Earth can evolve in many ways. Although some potential outcomes are given, they are little more than suggestion and can be changed by character action. What role you take is up to you.

The post is also open for players to plot and coordinate between one another.






Endgame is upon us, and here is your run-down. As one can see, a lot of things are happening at once. This is intentionally so - people are supposed to split up, so pick and choose where to send your originals and dopples!


Important general notes:


- Activity Check: This month (March), we will ask for only two proofs of activity. April will not have an activity check.
- "Animals": This designates Wise Snake, the Crablobster Thing, Silent Swan with doppels and wolpertingers, the Lapland Devil with grinches and santas, Cousin Itt and the other echo area monsters.
- Dopples can, if there are very important reasons (being imprisoned, being bound by some form of mind control), stay away from the castle for a while, but they will grow more and more restless and unable to sleep and paranoid as time goes on. By at the very last the end of the sixth day they need to head back to the castle to not completely lose it (and a doppel will develop amazing mental and physical resources to achieve not completely losing it). If Silent Swan gets destroyed, dopples will lose this problem. They will however stay limited to echo boundaries for their movement.
- Echo boundaries: LC (Locke City), LV (Las Vegas), NA (Neuschwanstein Area), LA (Lapland Area), CI (Christmas Island), CL (Central London), SA (Santarem Area), GI (Galapagos Islands), TC (Tokyo City), TM (The Moon)
- The worldwide political situation is as follows: Europe, though technically caught up in controversies about immigration, Ukraine, Greece and other things, suddenly stops with all these issues when it is facing the threat of Orbital Tower debris hitting it all over and in a joint effort tries to figure out how to deal with that. The Americas, meanwhile, see a much more negative development as the USA and Brazil come very close to a war over American troops being employed to the Amazonas, while the USA itself is sinking in a political chaos as parts of the military join forces with parts of a party against parts of congress and the government, and everyone tries to do their own foreign politics.
Meanwhile, Geoff with Maryann Young at his side is getting more and more influential in the UN. They manage to be quite popular with most people and countries there. None of the other aliens are present in public, but can be encountered.
- Characters who have meddled with politics/authorities before will have a comparably easy time getting into political decision making processes, especially in Tokyo but also in the various European countries, the EU, Brazil, Australia and Equador; in America the political situation is hard to influence in a constructive way by anyone from the 27th onwards.


TIMELINE


3/25: Plot : NA : Checking out the swan.
3/26: Plot : NA : Orbital Tower becomes structurally unstable.
3/26: OOC : Reserves close.
3/27: Plot : USA/Brazil : Politics.
3/28: Plot : Europe/Africa/Asia: Fear of the Orbital Tower falling.
3/28: Plot : CL : The hair grows.
3/30: Plot : CI : Expedition to find the central mushroom.
4/1: Plot : NA/GI : Pink Lights over the Galapagos Islands, Orbital Tower moves from NA to GI.
4/2: OOC : Applications close.
4/3: Plot : CL : Two monsters in London.
4/4: Plot : USA/Brazil : Politics.
4/4-4/9: Plot : SA : The Animal is found.
4/10: Plot : TC : Pink Lights over Tokyo City. A giant kappa goes on a rampage.
4/11: Plot : TC : The Japanese parliament concludes its emergency meeting on if to bomb the kappa.
4/15: Plot : Moon/sky : The invasion begins.
4/16: Plot : Echo boundaries lacking Animals : The invasion reaches the ground.
4/17: Plot : Echo boundaries with weakened Animals : The invasion spreads.
4/20: Plot : The Enemy attacks the remaining echo boundary areas.


OOC EXPANDED TIMELINE


3/26: Reserves close at 00:00 PST.

4/2: Applications close at 00:00 PST. After this time, applications will remain closed for the reminder of the game.


IC EXPANDED TIMELINE


3/25: Neuschwanstein Area: Stefan ([personal profile] stefanged) will lead a group of originals to the castle to investigate and try to get his own and Xander's doppel back to Locke City. In the process of this, he will attempt to smash the swan statue. Anyone is welcome to go along on the trip or be there for other reasons when this happens, please go to the assigned thread below for plottings.

3/26: Neuschwanstein Area: The Orbital Tower starts to sway.

3/27: America | Brazil: Congresswoman Alicia Kerren dies. Two more similar cases among opponents of the intervention at/invasion of (depending on whom you ask) the Santarem Area in Brazil become known. | Brazil expels the American ambassador.

3/28: Europe/parts of Asia and Africa: Evacuation plans are made in many countries around the Orbital Tower. People all across Europe and parts of Africa and Asia start talking about what would happen if the tower falls, what can be done to keep that from happening or how the damage from falling debris could at least be kept to a minimum.

3/28: Central London: The London Subway as well as a number of tunnels and other underground areas have to be closed off and evacuated due to hair filling them. Some of the hair starts to move towards the surface, though it will take until the first days of April to show above the surface in significant quantities. It turns out to be sentient and try to wrap around people's/animals' legs or whatever gets close to it and pull it in to choke/squish them, but it is no more than hair: It can be cut with the help of scissors or a knife easily enough.

3/30: Julien ([personal profile] espigeonage) will lead a group into the Christmas Island jungle to check out the central mushroom. This can go four ways: 1+2. Only people that don't have a human respiratory system go. None of them are affected by the fungus's spores. They destroy the central mushroom or they do not. 3. People with a human respiratory system tag along. They destroy the central mushroom. 4. People with a human respiratory system tag along. They do not destroy the central mushroom; the people with the human respiratory system get the Christmas-Island insanity (trying to rid the island of human influences). Even if the central mushroom is destroyed, the minor mushrooms will remain, they just don't emit spores so the crazy will vanish once the central mushroom is gone. Plotting in the designated thread below!

4/1: Neuschwanstein Area / Galapagos Islands: The Orbital Tower is suddenly gone from Austria/Germany; it shows back up in the ocean amidst the Galapagos Islands, right on the equator, just as a pink light flashes over all of the islands. After some hectic panic in the area it turns out that it doesn't sway and is stable once again.

4/3: Central London: Walter ([personal profile] waltharius) will encounter the hair in the London subway and echo a colossus from his canon which will throw Walter. Literally. The hair will consider the Walter-projectile an attack and get into a fight with the colossus. Flying Godzilla vs really hairy King Kong in the middle of London, hide yo kids! (Note: Only Walter will be able to kill the colossus, but killing the hairy Animal/evacuation efforts are totally in all numbered hands.)

4/4: The Americas: Brazil, after multiple diplomatic attempts to stop the American military under Miller diplomatically, declares the continued "intervention" in the Santarem area an invasion and sends its own military there. No war is declared, but that only means that it isn't joined officially - partly because the American government and congress are locked in a political stalemate of uncooperativeness and disagreements and effectively incapable of acting.

between 4/4 and 4/9: Santarem Area: The dopples of Aaron ([personal profile] elfstoned) and Tony ([personal profile] oncedevil) who volunteered under General Miller will find the Animal of the Santarem area. The monster will start its destructive waking process, and the American military will in turn try to kill it. If any numbered with to interfere here one way or the other, please comment to the correct thread below for plotting.

4/10: Tokyo: Pink lights over Tokyo. A giant kappa awakens under the city, rises to the surface, and goes on an (accidental) rampage, desperately searching for water: It waddles around in bigger and smaller circles and asks with a thundering voice for directions to the next big body of water. Starting in Shinjuku, the kappa then moves southwest towards the harbour. The search leaves all of inner Tokyo in ruins from being stepped on, only the Tokyo Tower mysteriously remaining upright, if without power (you'll have to take the stairs, sorry). The kappa moves fairly quickly; everything is over in less than an hour, as it dives into the ocean and curls up on the bottom of the Tokyo Bay. The Japanese parliament has an emergency meeting and decides to try and have the military bomb the monster to death as soon as possible. If you want your numbered to show up at this debate or stop the bombing of Tokyo Bay physically, please comment to the appropriate thread.

4/15: At 4pm EST of the 15th, a child's laughing voice resounds in the air all around the world, remaining for over a minute and staying longer where it gets caught in the echo between buildings, mountains, or other echoing surfaces. Not long after, people in areas where the moon is visible (like those in Europe) will see pink lights on the moon, like a pink aurora borealis from above going all the way around the moon, and then the whole moon changes shape. Literally. It unfolds into a giant serpent that soon can be seen from everywhere around the world as it moves to wrap around the world, tossing and turning head and tail as if trying to hit and bite nasty flies. ...And if someone gets out a telescope, they'll realize that the serpent is doing exactly that: There are tiny spaceships attacking it and trying to pass by it, but for now it is holding up. ....You might maybe rather get to safety than get your telescope out though, because the serpent sometimes smashes down into the earth in its tossing and turning, and while it doesn't hit inhabited areas that still causes tsunamis and earthquakes.

4/16: The first spaceships get through... and strangely enough they land only inside echo boundaries, disappearing somewhere in the Mesosphere and reappearing about ten kilometres above ground. They always operate in exactly the same way: They bomb an area to clear it and then land their spaceship to release roughly a hundred soldiers (they look like humans). Each group of soldiers is equipped with extremely technically advanced equipment and on top of that has one super power - one could also say that it are all groups of 100 clones of the same person. The super powers range from telekinesis to the control of an element to telepathy and so on, but each soldier only has one. They are stronger than grinches - basically, your character will have trouble with them no matter what their powers are. They are not stormtroopers, they are darth vaders, so to speak. That said, they can be taken down, it will just be hard.

At first, they will land in the areas where the resident Animal was killed: Locke City, Las Vegas, and depending on how things go, some other areas. Then, they will land, in smaller contingencies, in areas where the Animal is weakened: Lapland, probably some other areas, too. The Animals in this areas, including their external parts (like doppels, wolpertingers, grinches and santas, minor mushrooms...) will rise to fight the invaders, wrecking havoc as they do so but very clearly focused on the invaders. They are, as a rule, more effective than numbered and normal people. At the last stage, the invaders will attack the echo boundaries with Animals that are still completely intact: Galapagos Island, perhaps more. Here, the Animal will be able to fend them off on its own.

Once the invaders have taken control of an echo boundary, they'll use it as a gateway to Earth, letting more and more of their kind file into the lands beyond. They will, very simply, try to conquer the world. The serpent that lies around the world will do its best to keep more ships from getting through to Earth, but as more and more come and it gets weaker more and more get through.


AND THEN?


From here, there are two ways to handle this

I. Play this out. Playing out the invasion will probably turn into a rather tedious and hard-to-keep-track-of thing.

II. To get around this, there could be one big log for invasion shenanigans and an OOC input post to determine how it will end.

The end of the invasion could be threefold:

1. The Enemy wins.

2. Earth wins with the help of its Animals and those who reside on it. Enough of Earth remains inhabitable for people to continue their lives in a post-apocalyptic world.

3. Earth wins with the help of its Animals and those who reside on it. But it has become a wasteland to its residents, and all beings on it which are capable of dying are dead. A long, long time later, Earth develops into a planet that can sustain life once more, and an intelligent species develops into which all characters that were reincarnated in its past are once more reincarnated.


If 2. or 3. happen, the game could be turned into a mod-less musebox or it could be continued with a new mod team, should there be people who are interested in running it. This decision is entirely up to the players.

Another thing to discuss would be if you, the players, would wish to open up the field for the invasion battles and invite back all characters that were previously in the game, aka let dropped characters return. By game mechanics, it would be possible: The Earth Entity could reactivate all those who used to have echoes but lost them as a final effort against the Enemy. But would you, the players, want this?

Please give us your opinion on these points in the designated threads below!





Potential Echo Opportunities

• Encountering a ghost-like presence, a Vermini, a Vermedi, a Vermaxi, a doppelgänger, a wolpertinger or a ghost wolpertinger for the first time grants one plot echo each.
• Using the teleporter for the first time will grant one plot echo.
• Seeing a pink light will grant one Tier 2 plot echo each. This Tier 2 is in addition to the monthly Tier 2.
• Touching the hair in the London tube will grant one plot echo.
• Being affected by the fungus in Christmas Island will grant one plot echo; people who already have a "weird status effect" from being on the island will receive such an echo upon returning there.


Please direct questions regarding these plot points to the thread below and not the post in general.
dragon_blossom: (No Fuu listen that's dumb)

[personal profile] dragon_blossom 2015-03-22 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
How well will these groups of 100 troops fare against a giant magical flying god robot? Will they have other measures in place to deal with that - especially if it appears suddenly and without warning?

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[personal profile] peacefulwinter 2015-03-22 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Similar but definitely different question from Marina's - how would a space-capable giant magical girl possibly bigger than the spaceships, do against the spaceships themselves? Are the ships themselves armed?

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[personal profile] alilyinthemoonslight 2015-03-23 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Two questions!

One

There is one effect of Lily's powers that I haven't touched upon very much, but would be liable to cut loose in the final battle: Beyond the kinetic force and explosions of her key attacks (Silver Forte Wave, Floral Power Fortissimo, and Heartcatch Orchestra) there is a purifying or healing effect that can take place. This doesn't just happen to monsters - it can happen to people too! For those with pure hearts it will just make them all happy and kind of emotionally gooey and warm for awhile.

For those with ill intentions, the desire to harm and destroy others, or those with "evil" hearts they can be purified, made to see the error of their ways, and so forth.

What effect, if any, would that sort of power have on the invaders?

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I imagine that it probably hinges on discussion of what ending we may get, but when might we get an idea of what's going to go down with the four aliens we've come to know over the last almost-year? :O This one is just out of curiosity!

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Re: General Questions

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Do the echoes from doppelgangers happen only when one meets a doppelganger f2f or does it count over the network too? What if they aren't your own doppelganger?

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[personal profile] ruleorserve 2015-03-24 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
For people with non-longer-entirely-human respiratory systems, does being in whatever proximity to the mushroom would otherwise cause the status effect still cause an echo?

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Re: General Questions

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Are these dates set in stone, or are they just dates to set a given post on?

Most of us don't have a lot of free time.

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[personal profile] elfstoned 2015-03-30 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Could Aaron + 100 ghosts take out any of these 100 soldiers? I'd like for him to be in Locke City and defend it against invaders. How successful is he allowed to be if his ghosts can terrify + affect physical things?

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[personal profile] oncedevil 2015-03-22 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Doppelganger Tony will be posing as his original to interfere with the operation and attempt to protect the swan.
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I might have DoppelMarina involved in some capacity, not sure what to have her do yet.
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[personal profile] knights_king 2015-03-22 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Doppel!Arthur will be around to play defender.

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[personal profile] bythewaves 2015-03-22 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Doppel Arnold and Arnold will both worry about Stefan, Doppel Arnold/Benedict wouldn't mind coming along if Stefan wants the most Eeyore of Doppels to follow them around and be gloomy XD

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Re: Plotting: 3/25

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Floweregg will want to tag along (more or less secretly) because she's the best search dog! She totally has the best nose!

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Re: Plotting: 3/30

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Just chiming in to verify D!Tony will be present.

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Turns out the Lord of the Bugmen speaks fluent Japanese and has some extended family in Japan, so Hajime's going to be there.

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Re: Plotting: 4/10

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Re: Plotting: 4/10

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Re: Option II: Decide OOCly

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Re: Option II: Decide OOCly

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dead_black_eyes: "Secret Agent Man" (Take one last look at the sacred heart)

[personal profile] dead_black_eyes 2015-03-23 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I love this game and really want to keep something rolling afterward. I know relatively little about modding but I love to write and keep track of things and I'm a huge fan of NPCing, so if people don't object, I could probably at least be of some help? Musebox works for me too. Outcomes 2 and 3 both feel like viable and exciting options to me with my one guy here.

EDIT: I've been talking on plurk with some folks and we were wondering about the extent of 2's "post-apocalyptic"-ness. Is the world completely devastated with roaming desert bands, or are people more or less able to continue living in their cities, albeit with more hardship and forever-changed lives following the invasion? It seems like a lot of players do want a happier ending so my vote is for a "soft" 2, something that allows us to continue the CR we've built and maintain some of the slice-of-life playing that's become a big part of STE despite how very plot-driven it's always been.
Edited 2015-03-23 02:37 (UTC)

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[personal profile] betterthanwu 2015-03-22 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
unghhh I want to app Kuvira so she can echo a giant mecha with an arm cannon at the most dramatic moment possible, but I don't want to play someone who can only establish a relatively small amount of CR by endgame. It feels cheap if she's not connected to other characters!

So uh. Anyone have some important NPC who could turn into her? >< Echoes could change her pretty radically pretty quickly, but I'd still like her to be someone at least somewhat serious with a degree of authority.

Kuvira's an ambitious guard-captain and dancer, who sacrificed that life to try and save her country as it crumbled, and wound up becoming a dictator as she united it, getting increasingly out of balance. She's a good person who went too far. Her powers are manipulating earth and stone and especially metal, the last with ridiculous speed and precision, but she also ends up with a very durable 250-foot mecha that fires an absurdly powerful spirit cannon.
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[personal profile] scarlet_devil 2015-03-23 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Well, uh... I've already established Emilia's mother as being a hardass, heh. She's pretty much the head of the family and deals with the family holdings. Only thing is, she's blonde.

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[personal profile] waltharius 2015-03-23 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
WHO WANTS TO HELP WITH THE DOUBLE MONSTER LONDON SHENANIGANS??

Walter's sword is needed to take down the colossus/monster two, BUT he probably wouldn't have it right away. Does anyone want to deliver his sword/help him get rid of the colossus?? OR JUST BE IN LONDON FOR THIS INSANITY?
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[personal profile] notbloody 2015-03-23 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
IS THERE ANY WAY TO HAVE A TINY DOG STRUGGLE AND FAIL TO GET THE SWORD TO HIM and then like make a network post for help or something because people are being weird about her dragging a sword half her size around

I'm just not sure how she would get it :|9 / learn that she needs to get it
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Saretha + Saretha = ???Profit???

[personal profile] purestambition 2015-03-23 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Well, this is convenient in one way. I'd had a plan for a Saretha post in the last week, but real life (sick, work, COMPUTER IMPLODING) prevented me!

It'll require a couple of slight tweaks, but this whole series of revelations may actually work rather well with this.

The plan was thus, and I will have a post before everything kicks up on the 25th:

  • Saretha and DoppelSaretha are going to meet. In spite of some... disturbingly familiar behavior on the part of DoppelSaretha, they will see eye to eye on a couple key matters.
  • Those matters? The nature of the Animals, and their suspicions on the aliens - specifically via Young's - actions.
  • Saretha will propose through a series of logistical points, between everything they've learned, the aliens' actions around numerous things, and the mistrust born by the knowledge of them influencing their thoughts and opinions that destroying the Animals, and thus considering all Doppelgangers to automatically be their enemies, is the wrong idea. Based on her conversation with Young (along with Shou and Lazarus) back in January, on her reaction to them NOT seeking out to kill the doppelgangers... That BOTH sides have a vested interest in considering themselves with a common foe.

    What happens there, of course - be it via Numbered or Doppel - is up in the air, but. This is what I'm planning to have her do.

    If anyone has any input or thoughts on things from there, I'm open to hearing them. :3
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    Re: Saretha + Saretha = ???Profit???

    [personal profile] ursoreckless 2015-03-23 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
    Shou has pretty much told Strider that he thinks the pink monsters should not be hurt and instead that what they had heard about Wise Snake being a protector is the right thing. He feels that the aliens are working with Tiny and his gangster gut tells him to not trust them at all.

    He also thinks that the dopple's might be a bit weird and trying to stir crap up but might not be as much enemies as people think they are.

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    General Plotting Involving Fil + Giant Mountain in Las Vegas

    [personal profile] moreweaponsthanyou 2015-03-23 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
    In case it's not clear, that Giant mountain in Las Vegas is Erebor, last refuse of the dwarves that appeared in Vegas in one of the pink light incidents. And Fil, by virtue of him being the last dwarf around (there's still a number of former dwarves that are Numbered allies around Vegas and Locke), considers the Mountain to be in his charge.

    Anyway, what he's been doing quietly in the last month or so is slowly stockpiling supplies in the Mountain in case of emergencies or simply just a place for Numbered to retreat to if things get really awful. Basically things like non-perishable food, oil, gas, etc... It's very very slow going because lack of funds, no personnel helping him (he's doing it on his own) and he's trying to be discrete about it.

    Fil's tired and kinda stressed out and he really is running out of money. So recently he's had the bright idea (blasphemous as it is) of trading off some of the more non-distinctive jewelry from the gold hoard for money, then buy supplies with it. And this time he's going to be asking on the Network for help.

    So...any takers? Arnold and Isabella will be helping when I asked on plurk. I'll get a post up in a day or two about this.
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    [personal profile] scarlet_devil 2015-03-24 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
    It shouldn't be hard for Emi (and potential family) to be convinced to kick money his way.
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    MAGICAL GIRL THROWDOWN - March 27th

    [personal profile] alilyinthemoonslight 2015-03-23 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
    While politics are going down on Friday, something else volatile is about to rock Las Vegas: Incited by realization of the Great Heart Tree's presence in that city, Doppelganger Jasmine will be leading a small selection of her like-minded cohorts to raise an attack against it. However, her goal is not to destroy it! (And doing so would screw over other folks, not even necessarily me, so we won't be doing that.) She will be doing this attempting to lure certain Precure into a battle in a misguided attempt to remove them from the playing field, particularly her "other."

    This is open for others to show up and try to deal with in one way or another, but there are a couple of key points!

  • As said, we would rather - for the sake of any potential future StE-original Precures - leave the Great Heart Tree intact! No one doing this ICly actually wants any harm to come to the tree, as it's an asset.
  • There is going to be a one-on-one bout against Doppel Jasmine at some point, and in fact depending on the amount of participants we may want to break this down to a handful of single one-on-one threads so as this doesn't drag on forever.
  • Doppelganger Jasmine WILL DIE. There will be fallout from this, and it will not be pretty.

    Mostly, this is a thing that will act as a climax to certain character specific arcs, and obviously isn't a big, game-encompassing thing. So the focus will be there, but as it's going to be big, explosive, and out in the open, it seems relevant to talk about here so everyone knows what's going down!
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    [personal profile] scarlet_devil 2015-03-24 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
    And Emi, what with being halfway across the world, ends up turning up to the fight just after it ends.

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    [personal profile] evowhisperer 2015-04-05 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
    Quick question, because my memory has been like a seive! Will there be anyone else dying thanks to surprise-weird cancer? I'm planning to have Cesar make a post about it soon either way, but I'm trying to eyeball timeline stuff!

    Edit: ..... Nevermind, I think I answered my own question with what's written up above. Thanks!
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