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MOD ANNOUNCEMENT
As many of you are aware, there has been a recent incident involving ourselves and a few players. We wish to address this matter here.
Firstly, we apologize not only for our delay in speaking on this, but for our own behavior during this. We do take fault for having been too inflexible on the matter which started everything. All of us are to blame for this inflexibility and we all take responsibility for it; not just one mod is fully to blame for anything which happened. The plot the player desired should not have been dealt with in the way that it was. Our reasoning had been that we had not seen evidence that the plot had been set in stone, we had not been given reason why change was necessary to reconcile the plots, and that the details behind this plot/what was needed to occur to bring it to fruition were not brought to us. We offered one compromise, it was not taken, and we should have been more flexible about offering further compromises. We are, again, sorry for that inflexibility on our end.
Secondly, to prevent any risk of this sort of situation ever happening again, we are discussing a frankly overdue new system of accounting for, organizing, and simplifying coordination between planned plots, both meta and player. Details on it will be coming soon.
And thirdly, the mod with the most concerns voiced about her has been issued a warning, and will be taking far less of a stance involving plot-related issues for the time being. We will monitor her behavior to ensure a repeat of this kind of situation does not occur again and, should it, she will be dealt with. In line with those concerns, while she will still be involved in plotting and whatever issues may come to us, the other mods will have far greater a say, and will be considered the figures of authority where directly addressing player concerns and needs is concerned.
However, what we stand firm about is that ganging up on a person while refusing their own comfort is not permissible. The mod in question had become extremely uncomfortable having so many people, including one not in the game, on her all at once while she was not feeling well. This was the reason warnings were issued. We do, however, concede to having been too impulsive in issuing warnings to all involved, and once more, we do apologize to the parties who had been warned without having acted severely enough to warrant a warning. All but one of the warnings has been lifted.
Finally, not all the mods are experienced mods, and even the more experienced mods will acknowledge they can always use some help. So please, we ask that if any of you have any suggestions on how we might improve to come and tell us.
Thank you and, once again, we all apologize for our respective parts in this situation.
Comments to this post are enabled. At request, they have been unscreened. If you have left a screened comment and would like it unscreened, please indicate so! As per the suggestion of Guin, if you would prefer to leave us a screened comment, please do so on the Mod Contact post.
We will make a second post addressing those concerns, resolutions, and invitation of a second round of feedback as soon as we're able.
UPDATE - 5/3:
The StE modteam is currently planning to come together as a group and discuss all the issues brought to them on this post. Linda and Guin will be present while we are all on to continue discussion as a full team in order to ensure that all points and issues are thoroughly addressed.
This discussion will be happening as soon as possible - but coordinating schedules has proven difficult, so please bear with us.
This post will be edited accordingly once the discussion's day and time have been set.
UPDATE - 5/3:
The discussion will begin Sunday, May 4th, 5:00 P.M. CDT/3:00 P.M. PST.
UPDATE - 5/4:
The discussion has begun and is underway; it's proven to be more intensive than anticipated and hasn't yet ended, but will resume tomorrow and continue until concluded.
In the meantime, screencaps of the discussion thus far are posted at Linda's public Plurk; further updates will be made on this post and the linked Plurk, including the date, once set, of the second post.
UPDATE - 5/5:
Discussion has now concluded - we're sorry for having been quiet for so long!
Formal address of the points brought to this post as well as a second OOC post and a mod apps announcement will be coming by the end of tomorrow - Tuesday, 5/6.
- THE STE MODS: Anduin, Blue, Mini, and Olga
Firstly, we apologize not only for our delay in speaking on this, but for our own behavior during this. We do take fault for having been too inflexible on the matter which started everything. All of us are to blame for this inflexibility and we all take responsibility for it; not just one mod is fully to blame for anything which happened. The plot the player desired should not have been dealt with in the way that it was. Our reasoning had been that we had not seen evidence that the plot had been set in stone, we had not been given reason why change was necessary to reconcile the plots, and that the details behind this plot/what was needed to occur to bring it to fruition were not brought to us. We offered one compromise, it was not taken, and we should have been more flexible about offering further compromises. We are, again, sorry for that inflexibility on our end.
Secondly, to prevent any risk of this sort of situation ever happening again, we are discussing a frankly overdue new system of accounting for, organizing, and simplifying coordination between planned plots, both meta and player. Details on it will be coming soon.
And thirdly, the mod with the most concerns voiced about her has been issued a warning, and will be taking far less of a stance involving plot-related issues for the time being. We will monitor her behavior to ensure a repeat of this kind of situation does not occur again and, should it, she will be dealt with. In line with those concerns, while she will still be involved in plotting and whatever issues may come to us, the other mods will have far greater a say, and will be considered the figures of authority where directly addressing player concerns and needs is concerned.
However, what we stand firm about is that ganging up on a person while refusing their own comfort is not permissible. The mod in question had become extremely uncomfortable having so many people, including one not in the game, on her all at once while she was not feeling well. This was the reason warnings were issued. We do, however, concede to having been too impulsive in issuing warnings to all involved, and once more, we do apologize to the parties who had been warned without having acted severely enough to warrant a warning. All but one of the warnings has been lifted.
Finally, not all the mods are experienced mods, and even the more experienced mods will acknowledge they can always use some help. So please, we ask that if any of you have any suggestions on how we might improve to come and tell us.
Thank you and, once again, we all apologize for our respective parts in this situation.
Comments to this post are enabled. At request, they have been unscreened. If you have left a screened comment and would like it unscreened, please indicate so! As per the suggestion of Guin, if you would prefer to leave us a screened comment, please do so on the Mod Contact post.
We will make a second post addressing those concerns, resolutions, and invitation of a second round of feedback as soon as we're able.
UPDATE - 5/3:
The StE modteam is currently planning to come together as a group and discuss all the issues brought to them on this post. Linda and Guin will be present while we are all on to continue discussion as a full team in order to ensure that all points and issues are thoroughly addressed.
This discussion will be happening as soon as possible - but coordinating schedules has proven difficult, so please bear with us.
This post will be edited accordingly once the discussion's day and time have been set.
UPDATE - 5/3:
The discussion will begin Sunday, May 4th, 5:00 P.M. CDT/3:00 P.M. PST.
UPDATE - 5/4:
The discussion has begun and is underway; it's proven to be more intensive than anticipated and hasn't yet ended, but will resume tomorrow and continue until concluded.
In the meantime, screencaps of the discussion thus far are posted at Linda's public Plurk; further updates will be made on this post and the linked Plurk, including the date, once set, of the second post.
UPDATE - 5/5:
Discussion has now concluded - we're sorry for having been quiet for so long!
Formal address of the points brought to this post as well as a second OOC post and a mod apps announcement will be coming by the end of tomorrow - Tuesday, 5/6.
- THE STE MODS: Anduin, Blue, Mini, and Olga
HOLY FUCK I BROKE THE CHARACTER COUNT
like the one I'm making nowand can end up limiting needed conversations, especially since everyone needs to be online at the same time to actually talk. AIM is a great tool for longer discussions, but it still requires people being online at the same time and possibly setting up an AIM Chat, which are just getting more and more finicky the longer the software is out. Having a central place for any sort of discussion that needs a more complicated mod talk than "I'm going to approve this"/"Okay" lets you share all the information with everyone at once so there's no crossed wires, and everyone can read all of the prior talk as well. Don't delete a discussion thread until it's fully resolved (or never delete it, if it's a really important or complicated thing). Require everyone to check it at least every couple of days to see if there's anything new that came in.Similarly, many complaints have been made about Mini, but for different reasons. She's most definitely around, she seems to respond to things with the mod journal pretty frequently, but we've long since reached double digits in players that are afraid to talk to her at all or have anything to do with her. She is, unintentionally, holding players hostage through the fear that they'll say something about her, or to her, and she'll fly off the handle or be incredibly acidic in return. Her reaction to this ordeal, at least as told by Batty and Linda, showed her incredible determination to be inflexible in the movement of a more or less personal plot that was not time-sensitive, whereas her plot made Kotetsu's party very time sensitive because, see, Batty was right. The brutal murder of a Numbered person would override (almost) anyone's urge to have a fun little party to celebrate the conviction of their enemies. Even if you incorporated her death into the overarching plot in Vegas, this was not a situation that could only have happened on that specific day and could easily have been moved one or two days into the future to let people have a little fun first - and yet every proposal Batty made was shot down. Absolutely unacceptable. This is far from the personality that a mod needs, and she needs to have a good hard think about whether she is mod material. I, and apparently several other people, don't think she is.
I hope at least some of these suggestions are helpful, and I hope that we can move past this and continue on with an awesome game. But I'm going to finish this with two caveats you need to apply right now because you are continuing to be unfair to the people that began this whole incident in very, very different and ridiculous ways.
One - Take The Warning Off Batty. Going back to my initial comparison, Batty's "crime" wouldn't even count as a petty misdemeanor in the real world, and in RP Land it certainly doesn't deserve a warning and a ban threat. Did she include too many people in a private plurk to talk to mods about a problem? Yes, I would say four people for "moral support" is too many. It's an implicit trust that private communications will be kept private, which was obviously the logic Batty was operating on here, and so I can see having one in-game friend in with her to make sure the mods kept the snap reactions to a minimum. But Anduin never responded, which is on Anduin. Olga chose to keep engaging the situation when she should have promised a resolution at a later date, especially when people were telling her to do so in consideration of her health. The players are not the problem here - the mods most certainly are. And the players should not be held accountable for mod fuck ups, especially not because the mods refuse to see that they did fuck up.
Two - Suspend Mini. Or Ban Her From Modding. Her inflexibility about this situation is what started this whole thing, and her refusal to move a plot that literally wouldn't affect her after it happened because her character would be dead is, frankly, infuriating. Many, many people are uncomfortable with her, and she has done nothing to endear herself to the game at large. Her actions have stabbed the game in the lungs and put it in the hospital. This will be tough for her to hear, maybe impossible for her to accept, but even on the internet actions have consequences, and she's more than earned hers. When you have this many people who don't like a mod and want her gone, it's time to bow to public opinion. Whether she's salvageable or not, I don't know. I don't know her. But she's earned more than a warning.
It's time to straighten up and fly right, kids - else you won't have a game to run soon.
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