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Save the Earth Mods ([personal profile] theearth) wrote in [community profile] saveyourselves2014-05-01 08:29 pm
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MOD ANNOUNCEMENT

As many of you are aware, there has been a recent incident involving ourselves and a few players. We wish to address this matter here.

Firstly, we apologize not only for our delay in speaking on this, but for our own behavior during this. We do take fault for having been too inflexible on the matter which started everything. All of us are to blame for this inflexibility and we all take responsibility for it; not just one mod is fully to blame for anything which happened. The plot the player desired should not have been dealt with in the way that it was. Our reasoning had been that we had not seen evidence that the plot had been set in stone, we had not been given reason why change was necessary to reconcile the plots, and that the details behind this plot/what was needed to occur to bring it to fruition were not brought to us. We offered one compromise, it was not taken, and we should have been more flexible about offering further compromises. We are, again, sorry for that inflexibility on our end.

Secondly, to prevent any risk of this sort of situation ever happening again, we are discussing a frankly overdue new system of accounting for, organizing, and simplifying coordination between planned plots, both meta and player. Details on it will be coming soon.

And thirdly, the mod with the most concerns voiced about her has been issued a warning, and will be taking far less of a stance involving plot-related issues for the time being. We will monitor her behavior to ensure a repeat of this kind of situation does not occur again and, should it, she will be dealt with. In line with those concerns, while she will still be involved in plotting and whatever issues may come to us, the other mods will have far greater a say, and will be considered the figures of authority where directly addressing player concerns and needs is concerned.

However, what we stand firm about is that ganging up on a person while refusing their own comfort is not permissible. The mod in question had become extremely uncomfortable having so many people, including one not in the game, on her all at once while she was not feeling well. This was the reason warnings were issued. We do, however, concede to having been too impulsive in issuing warnings to all involved, and once more, we do apologize to the parties who had been warned without having acted severely enough to warrant a warning. All but one of the warnings has been lifted.

Finally, not all the mods are experienced mods, and even the more experienced mods will acknowledge they can always use some help. So please, we ask that if any of you have any suggestions on how we might improve to come and tell us.

Thank you and, once again, we all apologize for our respective parts in this situation.

Comments to this post are enabled. At request, they have been unscreened. If you have left a screened comment and would like it unscreened, please indicate so! As per the suggestion of Guin, if you would prefer to leave us a screened comment, please do so on the Mod Contact post.

We will make a second post addressing those concerns, resolutions, and invitation of a second round of feedback as soon as we're able.


UPDATE - 5/3:

The StE modteam is currently planning to come together as a group and discuss all the issues brought to them on this post. Linda and Guin will be present while we are all on to continue discussion as a full team in order to ensure that all points and issues are thoroughly addressed.

This discussion will be happening as soon as possible - but coordinating schedules has proven difficult, so please bear with us.

This post will be edited accordingly once the discussion's day and time have been set.

UPDATE - 5/3:

The discussion will begin Sunday, May 4th, 5:00 P.M. CDT/3:00 P.M. PST.

UPDATE - 5/4:

The discussion has begun and is underway; it's proven to be more intensive than anticipated and hasn't yet ended, but will resume tomorrow and continue until concluded.

In the meantime, screencaps of the discussion thus far are posted at Linda's public Plurk; further updates will be made on this post and the linked Plurk, including the date, once set, of the second post.

UPDATE - 5/5:

Discussion has now concluded - we're sorry for having been quiet for so long!

Formal address of the points brought to this post as well as a second OOC post and a mod apps announcement will be coming by the end of tomorrow - Tuesday, 5/6.

- THE STE MODS: Anduin, Blue, Mini, and Olga
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[personal profile] shineonyou 2014-05-05 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
no, dude, it's legit. don't worry about it. what guin and i were hoping for was more of an organic discussion rather than kind of a "here is a point, here is our answer" sort of situation, but the gdoc happened. so we read through it and there were a few things that stood out as kind of confusing-- which is what we wanted to ask about. for example, there was a point in the gdoc where mini said "I declined at least one plot in that what the player was asking for didn’t exist for them to find" and as a kneejerk reaction, i was like "what????" which is why we asked about all the plot stuff and how they view players within their overarching plot.

for the next discussion, what we mainly want to focus on is accountability. for example, in the gdoc, they talk about forgetting about communicating with players or not being able to have a good response in time and letting things dwindle. they've explained why in the gdoc, and it's totally understandable (big game, difficulties with getting other mod's consent, etc)-- but it feels like there aren't that many solutions to the problem? we're super hoping that this part of the discussion will be a bit more organic and less like the spanish inquisition.

do you mind if i ask you for suggestions as to how we should approach that?
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[personal profile] seriallylucky 2014-05-05 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I'd be more comfortable with something more like what Blue and Mini said, early on, that they were expecting - a discussion between themselves, with some clarification or direction or other occasional interjection from you guys.

It just... I understand why you're there, but it feels like you're taking charge of the whole thing, and something about that - perhaps especially in light of the fact that both of you were in the support group in the issue directly that prompted this, and thus may well be particularly aggrieved here - makes me uncomfortable.

Perhaps you could invite someone else, someone who wasn't involved and who's been levelheaded here, to be sort of a moderator? Not to take charge themselves, but to keep balance so that neither side feels like it's overruling the other.
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[personal profile] shineonyou 2014-05-05 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
okay! that's my bad there-- we were hoping for a discussion in the beginning between the mods, but then the gdoc happened and it felt like it was just kinda up to us to respond to it? but i totally see what you mean there. what about prodding questions? like, for example, if they're talking about something but getting bogged down in the details (like guin and i did), would it be okay to ask something to get everyone back on track? or should it just continue as is?

i can totally ask the mods if they'd mind an uninvolved party in there too. thanks for the suggestions, bro. it super helps a lot <3
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[personal profile] seriallylucky 2014-05-05 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
what about prodding questions? like, for example, if they're talking about something but getting bogged down in the details (like guin and i did), would it be okay to ask something to get everyone back on track?

Oh, absolutely. That's certainly the kind of thing that could be overdone, if it starts to seem like you're shooting down any hint of digression or brainstorming, but if things do get bogged down I don't see that a nudge of direction would be inappropriate.
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[personal profile] shineonyou 2014-05-05 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
got it! thanks, man!