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Neil Dylandy (Lockon Stratos) ([personal profile] hotshots) wrote in [community profile] saveyourselves2014-03-10 09:18 am
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Giant Robot Check-In

Or things that are much LIKE giant robots.

So I figure it probably pertinent for those of us with freshly echoed giant robots/horrifying monstrosities/what have you to pick this discussion back up now that we're time-wise on the other side of Wise Snake.

What we do know is that the FBI will try to confiscate the Gundams/Evas to some capacity for the moment, but with the pilots still being able to oversee them, which is good since the Gundams and the Evas are locked to their pilots in one manner or another, but how is this to go about? That's mostly a mod question I'd suppose.

Really, I don't suppose any character is going to be in much of a position to stop the FBI from doing this for now, but if anyone is it'd probably be good to speak up~

As far as Neil is concerned, as the oldest of this motley crew of pilots, he's going to try and take some responsibility for the younger ones. (re: all of them) He would be trying ASAP to speak with the FBI and/or National Guard to try and leverage his military history and "hey we just saved the city" to get some cooperation. Which is the key thing - for right now, he's going to want to cooperate with the FBI if they're the ones overseeing the mecha.

But now that we've had some more experience with everything, does anyone else have any intentions? Plans? Figuring out where these weapons of mass destruction get shoved is probably vital for any of us doing much of anything, so it seems like a good thing to discuss!
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[personal profile] theearth 2014-03-11 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
How about for the first 24 hours, the pilots are told to gather their mechas in one designated spot (still in the Business District, somewhere that's been cleared of civilians and is pretty much decimated)? The FBI will set up a perimeter around the mechas, guard them, and usher the pilots away for questioning.

After that period, the FBI could appropriate some Mechanical Engineering Department facilities and send all of the mechas there.

It is possible for pilots to have escaped (ie abandoned their mechas), in which case the FBI/Guard could guard those separately (and with annoyance, probably).

I'd like to know who remained, who's cooperating, and what specifically they told or will tell the FBI. Assume the FBI flat out asked them for everything they know. We've designated the two-week breather period to be a "safe" period without overt investigation into reincarnates, but the mecha pilots are a bit different because of how obvious the mechas are.
Edited 2014-03-11 22:42 (UTC)
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[personal profile] theearth 2014-03-12 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
As long as the pilots are in good behavior, they shall be allowed access to the machines! (They probably need to go through some security check-in each time, but the FBI could make them badges to expedite the process in a week or two, assuming cooperative/good behavior.)

So after the initial questioning, agents will likely want the pilots to stay at one location (like an appropriated hotel or something) not only for their own track-keeping, but for these alleged claims of being targets. However, they will not force the issue. If the pilot wishes to go home, they may. They will, however, be followed and monitored by the FBI.
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[personal profile] argents 2014-03-11 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
thank you for this! now i know how to go about my post-snakening tags. (the image is get from this scenario is pretty boss. all the remaining mechas lined up in a ruined street, battle-scarred, spotlights shining on them, MAYBE A LIGHT DUSTING OF SNOW... don't mind me i think this is probably nick's fault.)

anyway, banagher will also stick around and cooperate. there'd be no point in him trying to run away for a few reaons: 1. there's no conceivable place to stash the unicorn that the FBI can't track down, and he's known that from the start, 2. he feels like he did the right thing with it, and he'll stick to his guns on that, 3. it requires fuel and energy and repairs he can't make himself, 4. if he doesn't cooperate, he's placing everyone who fought with him and the gundam during the fight + his general cr in a bad light.

while they're moving the mecha, he'll probably stick as close to neil as possible, and when separated for questioning, he'll probably be a little prickly, but not resistant to it. he'll outline the network's timeline and some general logistics, plus the police/military/thundercorp involvement. since he's been around since the start, he has pretty thorough tabs on everything.

he won't mind if they want to investigate the unicorn right away, knowing he has to be present. the only thing he might get dumb about is his right to have access to it. what he won't know is stuff like, who built it, what for, etc.
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[personal profile] theearth 2014-03-12 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
As long as the pilots are in good behavior, they shall be allowed access to the machines! (They probably need to go through some security check-in each time, but the FBI could make them badges to expedite the process in a week or two, assuming cooperative/good behavior.)

So after the initial questioning, agents will likely want the pilots to stay at one location (like an appropriated hotel or something) not only for their own track-keeping, but for these alleged claims of being targets. However, they will not force the issue. If the pilot wishes to go home, they may. They will, however, be followed and monitored by the FBI.
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[personal profile] argents 2014-03-12 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
excellent, i was hoping for a security check-in process re: gundam visitation rights. and i don't think banagher will put up much of a fuss about having to stay at a hotel as long as he has somewhere to crash for a day. this may be dependent on what neil and eugen do too though. WHAT SAY YOU, PILOTS

though for ken -- EYY WILL STILL GOING DOWN TO THE BAR OR WHAT
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[personal profile] soulsborderline 2014-03-12 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Asuka will remain cooperate as far as she can, but for two things:

First is she ran her Eva's battery down, and physically can't move it unless they give her a jump. It would probably be more effective to load it up on a very large flatbed or jointed flatbeds to move it.

She will also refuse to be separated from her robot unless physically restrained. She'll tell everything she knows about it - that it's a large robot controlled through mental synchronization designed to fight large alien monsters, and that it was created by an organization called "NERV" that existed, or exists, in a different reality. She'll also be adamant, even though this is logical deduction on her part, that it will only respond to her particular brain and is useless to anyone else.

She will also rat out the LCPD and - if there's no other way she can see to be allowed to stay with her robot - start handing out general information about the Network and the alien everyone was fighting, which she's only really reluctant to do because it sounds even crazier than "this is an alien-fighting robot from a parallel universe". Expect a lot of references to Occam's Razor.

She won't name names of other reincarnates, though. She has that much pride.

If she ends up separated from Eva 02, she'll shut up entirely except for loud, uninformative complaining. All she wants is to keep an eye on the robot at this point, and will cooperate pretty much entirely based on whether she's allowed to.
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[personal profile] theearth 2014-03-12 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
If some of the Gundam pilots are amenable to it, perhaps they could aid in moving Asuka's Eva unit!

The FBI will try to convince her to leave her Eva unit behind, but since she's putting in all the brakes, they'll concede this battle and question her near her Eva.

They'll want her to leave the unit behind after that, though. Agents will likely want the pilots to stay at one location (like an appropriated hotel or something) not only for their own track-keeping, but for these alleged claims of being targets. However, they will not force the issue. If the pilot wishes to go home, they may. They will, however, be followed and monitored by the FBI.

Is Asuka still going to refuse to leave?
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[personal profile] soulsborderline 2014-03-12 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Where's the hotel in relation to where they're keeping the robots?

It will eventually occur to her she has to sleep sometime, and she's not going to do it submerged in weird oxygenated goop. She'll insist on being kept nearby initially, but will accept a hotel room as long as she can "keep an eye on things". And it has a shower.

If they do move the Eva without her permission/going along, she'll request to go back to the University, which she'll use as an opportunity to make a mad dash for the media with all kinds of outlandish charges against the FBI. The Feds, being generally trained in psychology, will probably be able to anticipate that cunning plan. Hopefully for Asuka they'll decide keeping her near her robot is less trouble than keeping her mouth shut.
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[personal profile] theearth 2014-03-12 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
The first location of the robots will still be in the Business District, so the hotel would be rather far away from it. Certainly not walking or running distance. The second location, the University, would be closer -- the hotel perhaps a ten minute drive by car?
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[personal profile] celebrity_commentator 2014-03-12 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
If they're moving them to the University, Asuka might just ask to go to her dorm. She won't object too strenuously to being monitored.

For the initial location, Asuka might demand a shower and then attempt to camp out, unless maybe Neil or Eugen wanted to persuade her that the Feds can't move her Eva quickly without them.
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[personal profile] theearth 2014-03-17 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The FBI/Guard won't be giving her that shower, sorry to say.
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[personal profile] buildyourworld 2014-03-12 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Eugen will remain behind with his Gundam and be cooperative since 1) He's aching all over and wouldn't be able to put up much fight anyway. 2) He'll want to know what to do with the Gundam and it's logistic. 3) Professional interest. He'll try to negotiate about being allowed to work on the mechas and bring up his occupation and qualification to justify it.

What I'll like to know in regard of 3 is if he would be pulled out of University to work on the mecha directly or will he be allowed to maintain his RA position in LCU since he's working on his doctorate under the LCU's scholarship and grants. Or if the FBI will arrange for something else entirely?

He'll also tell the FBI what little he knows of the network (which really isn't much since he's new but he will certainly namedrops Sherman and Edwards for what they did. But he won't talk about the other Numbers if asked about it.

What the FBI will find is that Virtue is locked to Eugen alone and can only be piloted by him, it would never runs out of power and looks to have double of Dynames and Unicorn's body mass. It also has those large shoulder cannons to be accounted for.
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[personal profile] theearth 2014-03-17 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Apologies for the delay in response!

HMM. I think that depends on how much time working on the Gundam(s) will take away from his doctorate. Whether or not he wants to try balancing the two is his choice, but he may not be able to for very long. I don't think the FBI would be keen on Eugen switching his doctorate subject onto the Gundams, either, because they wouldn't want that information published...

So he's probably going to need to choose one or the other.
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[personal profile] buildyourworld 2014-03-18 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
He'll probably be able to balance them out since academic is what he does best but I think it will be a close call anyhow. I think at this point he will most likely put his doctorate on hold to work on the Gundams because it will be more important to figure out the Gundams considering what's happening in the city. And whatever he can learn from the Gundams research will probably be beneficial to his own thesis anyway.

Also, he'll like to move back to his staff dormitory in the University once the Gundams are relocated to the Mech Engineering Dept.
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[personal profile] neopianangst 2014-03-12 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, sorry in advance for any typos since I'm on mobile. I talked some things over with Rei's mun to get stuff sorted out before posting so anything pertaining to her has been approved by Walk.

Shinji and Rei both stuck around, eventually settling for waiting near Unit 01(Shinji's Eva) for whatever was going to happen next. That would leave Unit 00(Rei's Eva) unattended so depending on which they approached first someone might've thought it was abandoned oops. As Asuka's mum already brought up, both Evas have exceeded their five minute operation time(they usually run connected to a large power cord and only have five minutes of battery without it) and thus Shinji and Rei can't move them without assistance. Shinjj couldn't even get his to walk properly yet anyway. It's also not exactly locked to him specifically, but it will work best for him as the synch between Eva and pilot is specifically meant to function based on mother-child bond and it has his preincarnation's mother's soul. Adults absolutely cannot pilot it. Shinji doesn't know any of this, though, and will tell the FBI as much.

Being an extremely clingy pair of twins, Shinji and Rei generally will be trying to stick as close to each other as possible, though Shinji will be slightly less resistant to being separated for questioning. He'll tell them what he can about the Eva, which won't be a lot, but he won't mention the network unless asked specifically. I'd assume that whoever's questioning him is likely to pick up on his depression and anxiety issues because they surely know enough about psychology. He'll be extremely nervous about the whole thing and he'll be emphasizing the fact that he's really not that special, he doesn't know much of anything useful, he's not worth much to them because he's generally not worth much as a person and wouldn't be very good at piloting the robot anyway, etc. He's much less interested in his robot than most of the other pilots(and before the FBI arrived had to be talked into sticking around instead of pretending to have nothing to do with it). He's more interested in what's going to happen to and be asked of him now.

As for the hotel accommodations vs. being monitered at home, Shinji will want to know if he can at least contact his mother if he stays. He doesn't exactly want to deal with her in person(oops anxiety leads to avoidance) at the moment as much as he wants to see his pets. He would be more cooperative with staying if he can share a room with his sister and if the hotel allows dogs.
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[personal profile] theearth 2014-03-17 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Apologies for the delay in response!

Some of the Gundams will eventually aid in moving the Eva Units to the Mechanical Engineering Department at Locke City University. The FBI will allow him to call his mother, though they'll be tapping into that conversation. They'll also allow him to room with his sister and dogs. The hotel does not want, but too bad!

The pilots will have the freedom to return home whenever they want to, but again, will be monitored by the FBI.
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[personal profile] talkshitgetsis 2014-03-12 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
First off, look up at Shinji's post for further details about what Rei is going to be doing, specifically the status of her eva being unattended upon the time it is found because Rei refused to split up from Shinji. However, she has witnesses proving that she was the one who was who was given it. (Who are both fellow mech pilots, Banagher and Asuka). Also generally how eva's work because I don't want you guys to have to read the same things over and over. It's worth noting that Rei does NOT have her piloting abilities back. Yet.

Rei is going to be generally accommodating towards the FBI and their questioning aside from one thing: She will be extremely resistant when it comes to the idea of she and Shinji being split up, even for questioning. As his twin sister she feels an obligation to his safety and doesn't want him involved in anything that she can't oversee or protect him from. That said she'll be answering whatever she can and shooting down a lot of questions with a big fat "I don't know." She's a very smart young girl (she'll refer you to her monumental wikipedia page listing all of her years of hard work moderating and contributing to the site) and very much knows her rights. She will only become resistant and overall difficult to deal with if she feels her rights, which she knows very well, are being infringed on.

As far as her living situation goes, she's pretty much going to do whatever Shinji decides he wants to do and will fervently defend and fight for whatever it is that he wants out of the situation. So just refer to Shinji-mun's post for that!
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[personal profile] theearth 2014-03-17 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Apologies for the delay in response!

The twins won't be split up. At this point in time, the FBI will be pretty gentle with their questioning and move onto the next whenever Rei digs in her heels. As mentioned above, the Eva units will be corralled with the Gundams at Locke City University's Mechanical Engineering Department. As long as the pilots are in good behavior, they shall be allowed access to their machines! (They probably need to go through some security check-in each time, but the FBI could make them badges to expedite the process in a week or two, assuming cooperative/good behavior.)

The pilots will have the freedom to return home whenever they want to, but again, will be monitored by the FBI.